The night was. Kuennes fast-talking exposition, while confusing, seems purposeful, as though the murder were a necessary backstory to be pushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to the heart of the narrative: Andrew Bagbys life and how horrible his death was for those who loved him. report that concluded the child protection system failed Zachary Turner. Turner, the daughter of a U.S. serviceman and a woman from St. Anthony, met Andrew while they were attending medical school at Memorial University in St. Johns. His goal at first was simply to collect memories and tributes from people who were close to Bagby. And in that time, the Canadian justice system does nothing. They held their breath. She called trying to get Andrew when he was here doing a rotation here in California. Dear Zachary was the most honored film at Cinequest 18 in San Jose, receiving sustained standing ovations from packed houses at all 3 screenings and winning 2 awards - a Special Jury Award for Documentary Feature and the Audience Award. The upbeat music stops and a little boy who speaks in that lispy slow muckle-mouthed way little boys do, asks, Why did Andrew get killed?. (Photo of Andrew and Kurt; Kurt editing film; collection of videotapes with, Mr. KUENNE: It was no longer just my search for what was left of, (Collection of videotapes of raw footage), Mr. KUENNE: I thought, I'm kind of the keeper of all this footage that is. Blood red screen. And we came back. I praise Kurt Kuenne for having the heart and determination to perfectly put together one of the most powerful documentaries I have ever watched. Ensure local journalism stays in your community by purchasing a membership today. HEATHER: I was so excited that he was dating somebody. Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, yeah. Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta will be the bill's sponsor in the Senate, and will shortly be distributing DVDs of "Dear Zachary" to all members of the Senate, just as he and MP Andrews distributed the film to all members of the House of Commons last fall when he introduced the bill. They still have friends in the province, people Kate said they wouldnt have survived without. This is how Kuenne represents his emotion at hearing the news that the woman who killed his friend had also killed his friends son. And I, wanted to scream, `My son's life is on hold forever, and you have the audacity, to apologize to this accused murderer?' He says his mother was so often, unavailable, especially from the time she started medical school. Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. How the fuck do you live like that? Also foreshadowing is how long it takes Andrews parents, Kate and David, to wade through various levels of bureaucracy to confirm his death. TO ME ITS REAL LIFE. Dear Zachary avoids the first pitfall by directly confronting the second. Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. We did have him for a little while, she said. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. KATE: (To Zachary) Kurt knew your daddy when he was a little boy. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. Woman #11: Doesn't matter what happened. Shirley Turner had walked out to the end, of a pier with tiny Zachary strapped to her body with a sweater, then jumped, into the ocean. This marks the first time in history an MP from Newfoundland has been able to get a private member's bill through Parliament; since 2001, 2,510 Private Member's Bills have been introduced in the House of Commons, but only 23 - less than 1% - have received Royal Assent. unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. MORRISON: When T.J. heard about Andrew's murder Mr. SHEARS: I just figure, `OK, well, he was in America. HEATHER: I knew he'd been struggling with me moving on and dating other people. She would never go away. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. did. Mr. DAVID BAGBY: I threw the phone at the desk, and I jumped up and just screamed, `No! We send a huge thanks to MP Scott Andrews, his assistant Ken Carter, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Tommy Banks, his assistant Thrse Gauthier, Gord McIntosh and all those in Parliament who have seen across party lines and supported this bill to honor Andrew & Zachary and help prevent a recurrence of our story. They are warm. hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. (Kate and Zachary; judge in court; Shirley being escorted from court), Mr. KUENNE: I don't know. How do you represent the fact that this 13-month-olds death was preventable? He seems to be talking about the unfathomable grief Shirley Jane Turner left behind. They are simply good people. Shirley Turner had some startling news. And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. But he was accepted here, St. John's, Newfoundland, the easternmost point in North America. January 15, 2008: She turns to talking of her son and calls him Gods blessing. "There, is no indication of a psychological disorder that would give concern about, potential harm to the public generally as her crime, while violent, was, specific in nature." And we, would have agreed to anything. January 28, 2008: The Bagbys prove it is possible for a woman to kill your child and for you to forge a civil relationship with that woman in order to protect another. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. As one friend said, Hes like the blessing Andrew left behind. It was for Zachary that Andrews parents retired, cashed in all their savings and moved from their lifelong home in Pennsylvania to Newfoundland, where Shirley Jane Turner lived. After arriving home, she drove 900 miles back to Pennsylvania to kill the man who rejected her. Unidentified Man #21: (Talking in group) I know. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. (A huge thanks to the folks at Different by Design in Los Angeles, CA and Anarchy Post in Glendale, CA for making this possible and affordable.). Corporal GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, Dr. Turner, I'm Corporal Gardner with the Pennsylvania State Police. MORRISON: As Kurt tracked down Andrew's friends for the documentary he was making, he discovered that not a one had anything favorable to say about Shirley. Click HERE for assistance. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible). "Go into this cold and be prepared for a life-changing experience. Cpl. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. For one thing, Shirley, required the Bagbys to bring Zachary to visit her once a week in jail. MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. If you were waiting to find out where exactly the comfort was in this litany of suffering, it is in Bagbys parents. But their efforts to. You know what, when Andrew didn't show up at 7:30, I knew something was very wrong. Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. April 14, 2009: Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. KEITH MORRISON reporting: He was everybody's idea of the perfect best man. Mr. SIMPSON: Things people should know about Andrew, he was never late. David Bagby's book, Dance With the Devil, is a good read. Click HERE for ticket information. I promise within the first five minutes you will be captured by it and you won't be able to tear yourself away. Jackson, Kentucky. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. Cpl. Turner shot Bagby two days after he broke up with her at a Pennsylvania airport as she was set to fly back to Iowa. It would be kind of upsetting, I guess, to let your son spend time. Bill C-464 was introduced in the House of Commons on October 22, 2009, passed the House of Commons unanimously on March 22nd of this year and passed the Senate of Canada last Thursday, December 9th, where it was sponsored by Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta. A 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition Blu-Ray and DVD with special artwork and packaging is available only from Oscilloscope Laboratories at the link below. We made this place together, we own it together, we run it together. Or was this her, way of demanding that they suspend their critical faculties and declare their, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I don't know what to give Zachary. And the comfort they personify can be found in the fact that even in the face of Shirley Jane Turner, they not only continue, they remain good while continuing. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. I would have to dream up some reason to go over, there in the middle of the night, to--for me to just appear on her doorstep, Mr. BAGBY: Turned out I wasn't. They could check cell towers then, but only manually. Very, very serious. KATE: I thought, `Well, he's got to get out of this.'. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I was really upset when you took him today, because I feel like I did the day you saw him at Unified Family Court. Amending Canada's bail code was my goal in releasing "Dear Zachary" publicly; it is my pleasure to announce that goal is now a reality. Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I have that for protection. -, "**** (Four stars). Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. Mr. and Mrs. David Bagby will be notified of the award, and may request background information on the recipient to facilitate any contact between the recipient and the Bagbys. Well never understand how anybody can ignore the fact that murderers are dangerous, he said. MORRISON: What did you think that she would do, kill you? Only Kate and David, MORRISON: Perhaps the most irksome part of the deal with Shirley. Zachary's life, even talking to her eldest son and his girlfriend about it. I said, `Find her, and I think you'll find who did this.'. But I used to look at her hand and think, it. If she had her way, we would not have had any visitation at, MORRISON: Coming up, fighting not just to see their grandson, but. The other, their grandson, Zachary Turner. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. -, "You don't just view what's happening on the screen -- you live it through every gasp and every tear, and every bit of exasperated anger(resulting) in one powerful standing ovation, the likes of which I have never seen at Hot Docs beforeDear Zachary will move you. (Newfoundland; Shears driving; photo of Shirley and Zachary; water at night; Mr. SHEARS: She said Zachary was being fussy and that just driving him, around would calm him down. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. he was fussy at all. Dear Zachary is as devastating as it is because it unravels the way bad things unravel in real life. On Nov. 5, Kate, who is originally from England, pictures Turner sitting on top of a Guy Fawkes bonfire and her family all around it with fireworks. In the course of the next two yearsas Turners extradition process dragged on, as Bagbys parents moved from California to Newfoundland to fight for custody of the baby, and as the case eventually took an even more terrible turnthe film came to be about those events as well. helped convince me that she would not hurt Zachary. This documentary starts out like a love letter. Kate to keep up their end of that bargain. David Bagby will be signing copies of Dance with the Devil on Sunday, January 20th, from 3-4 P.M. at Dolly's Bookstore, 510 Main Street, Park City, Utah. They've retired, hang out with friends and travel a bit, David Bagby said. "In a tragic ending, we bring new beginnings with bail reform so that no other family will have to go through the devastation that Kate and David have gone through," Andrews said. keep him safe, which they feared was about to become even more difficult. Mr. BAGBY: Yes. MORRISON: She kept trying to get between you and the baby. With that kind of goodness, there is no limit to the possibility of transcending all manner of evil. Also, today MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland introduced a bill in Parliament for its first reading that proposes a modification to Canada's bail code that would justify detention in custody for a suspect who is a potential danger to their own minor children. Except, OK, sometimes not. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. You can't tell them this over the phone. For those who've asked how Kate & David Bagby are doing now, here's a lovely article from Diane Crocker at Newfoundland's The Western Star. Cpl. He said, `The psychotic bitch. will not hurt Zachary, period. He had been shot five times and the No. The Bagbys attended the hearing, of course, and, could not quite believe their ears when they heard the judge's ruling. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. (Canadian flags; Newfoundland; lake and coast; man in coat; photos of Shirley, and Zachary; Kate, David and Zachary; Shirley, Kate and Zachary; Supreme Court, building; photos of David, Kate, Zachary and Shirley), Mr. BAGBY: Dealing with Turner was like, I don't know, walking around with. Laws governing the, rights of defendants are fairly strong in this country, but there's something, about Newfoundlanders in particular which may have contributed to the judge's, decision to grant bail. There won't be any question about whether she can hurt, MORRISON: Coming up, as David Bagby wrestles with these terrible. Shortly after his death, she fled to Canada and settled back in St. Johns. KATE: And she went over in the corner crying, and I gave him back. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. She was here.' After the shooting, according to Kate, Turner called her claiming she was trying to reach Andrew. CONTRIBUTED BY DAVID AND KATE BAGBY Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. It has been our privilege to have the trust and support of our East Coast communities for the last 200 years. A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. She. This is a huge step forward in the mission Dear Zachary was created to accomplish. May 16, 2008: Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. Cpl. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. children, who had recently been in a bad car accident. then one day I realized what it was. Screening next at DocuWeek, the International Documentary Association's Theatrical Documentary Showcase. Lastly, Dear Zachary was screened in Ottawa on March 11, 2009 for various members of Parliament and their staff; as a result, a small but committed group of Parliamentarians are now drafting a bill based on the issues raised in the film. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. And he'd be like(turns. But as someone else says, Grief is loves unwillingness to let go. So Andrew's father could just as easily be talking about love. None of his friends liked Turner because she was often inappropriate and even harassed one of Bagbys exes and just generally appeared to be an incredibly unstable, crude, and unlikeable personbasically Bagby's exact opposite. A security guard reported hearing a. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. MORRISON: There might have been a particular reason for this. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. (Newspaper rack; photo of Shirley and Zachary), Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) I am going to continue to scream long and loud, MORRISON: The Bagbys have continued a campaign for the overhaul, of the bail system. Yeah, I mean, I can watch that for sure. And I saw that night her malignancy. Are you having a good day with grandmom and. And tears are dropping on him, of course, and Kate went to wipe one of those away off his cheek, and a plug came out, where hed been shot in the left cheek. Andrew, despite his obvious abilities, was turned down by every medical school in the country. And he's like, `I'm not looking for anything serious. "This is the purest, most intensely raw film I have ever seen of any kind, dramatic or nonfiction. IE 11 is not supported. Mr. SIMPSON: He said, `You'll never guess who showed up on my doorstep at 5:30.' MORRISON: Because Zachary liked you best? Newfoundland to meet the now 11-month-old little boy. MORRISON: You didn't seriously think of--I mean, you talk about this plan Mr. BAGBY: Absolutely. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. However awkward Shirley Turner made it, they were sweet, cooperative. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Just got up. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. But the tributes Kuenne collected remain the spine of the movie, alternating throughout with exposition of the murder and its aftermath. Kuenne finished his documentary and dedicated it to the memories of both Bagby and Zachary. One contains the remains of their son, Dr. Andrew Bagby. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, this ranks right up there. MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. Kate says everything seemed to be going smoothly, until here. The film ends with the Bagbys and their relatives, friends, and colleagues reflecting on the father and son, as well as the . It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." 1 suspect was his estranged girlfriend, Shirley Turner, also a medical doctor, who was raised in western Newfoundland and was then practicing in Iowa. We're churning. People in the audience were literally weeping during the post-screening Q&A." This is the attention thing I was talking about. With that powerful, evidence, Shirley Turner was formally charged with Andrew's murder and, arrested by Newfoundland police. That child was Zachary, to whom the film is addressed. KATE: On Sunday night I got out of bed and prayed because I thought Andrew was at risk. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. (Youll never guess who showed up on my doorstep, one of Bagbys friends recalls him saying. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! The next, hearing in the extradition process was set for September, at which time they. KATE: People thought she was delicate, you know, and looked KATE: She couldn't kill. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed. And when, after his first year at med school, Heather broke off the engagement, Andrew was crushed. KATE: Ah, it was wonderful. Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. In 2006, the press was there again to cover the issuance of a report on the death of, (Newspaper article; David on TV show being interviewed; Confederation, Unidentified Reporter: (Newscast) The government has received a scathing. Someone found a car that didn't belong. MORRISON: Andrew's body was discovered the following morning with bullets lodged in his face, buttock, chest, the back of his head. In Los Angeles - August 22-28 at the Arclight Hollywood, 6360 Sunset Blvd. The news and opinions youll love for only $10 for 1 year. . David and Kate Bagby know all about the unlikely power of love funneled through rage. Dear Zachary has been announced as the first film to launch the newly formed MSNBC Films division of MSNBC. They began a drawn-out court battle to protect their grandson from the woman who had almost certainly murdered their son. MORRISON: And go she did, back to Newfoundland, Canada. Click HERE for ticket information. anything like that, would we take care of Zachary? I don't know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. 2023 Cond Nast. David bagby, left, and kate bagby, right, celebrate with their son andrew bagby at his graduation from medical school at memorial university of newfoundland in june 2000. contributed by david and kate bagby. KATE: (Zachary hugging Kate) This is your Uncle Kurt. He had returned to the US and had discovered a passion for family practice, where his love for people--and theirs for him--seemed as natural, as comfortable as the quiet town in Pennsylvania in which he'd chosen to live. We need each other, have each other to get through this.". Its been more than 10 years since the Bagbys have been back to Newfoundland and Labrador. Couldn't be her. The Bagbys still hold a bitterness when they talk about how they were failed by a legal system that let Turner out on bail and allowed her to retain custody of Zachary. Awaiting extradition, Turner drowned 13-month-old Zachary and took her own life as well. Mr. KUENNE: You know, he said--she said, `Look, I'm not looking for another husband. The strange allure of Robert Durst and The Jinx.. Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. So we called, and he came over and told us that Zachary and Shirley were. MORRISON: In Kurt Kuenne's documentary, Clark Simpson, one of Andrew's close friends at the hospital, remembers that November morning just two weeks later when Shirley surprised Andrew again. Unidentified Woman #12: We won't forget their son. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. Subscribe here. kind of the only way that this little boy is going to get to know his dad. Mr. SHEARS: I can remember being really upset and pissed off about that, happening because I had--I had friends here, and I had no time to tell anybody, basically why. They also went to Ottawa to push the case for Bill C-464, which had been introduced by then Liberal MP Scott Andrews, at a committee hearing. -, "urgent, furiousadmirably well editedthis incredible, well-researched documentary demonstrates the vast gulf one life can leave behind." I, was like, `Hi, buddy.' I cannot stress this enough: this movie frightened and disturbed me more than any horror film I've ever seen in my life. The apparent culprit was a woman named Shirley Turner, whom Bagby had dated but had broken up with on November 4th, in Latrobe, just before putting her on a plane to Council Bluffs, Iowa, where she lived at the time. Bagby came from Sunnyvale, California, and was the son of Kathleen Daphne Bagby ( ne Barnard), a registered nurse and midwife from Chatham, England, United Kingdom; and David Franklin Bagby, an American former United States Navy serviceman and computer engineer. I just want to get through medical school.'. in honor of his beloved friend Andrew, and then for Andrew's son, Zachary. Bagbys wondered if there might ever be an extradition hearing. You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. I lay in--laid there in bed a couple of times and thought, If I just kill her, Zachary will be safe. And I don't know, I just lay on top of her and we, MORRISON: T.J. opened the door to police, too, and heard the. March 18, 2008: I didn't have. This was the situation with Andrews son Zachary. Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. On a shelf in the California home of David and Kate Bagby, sitting inconspicuously among some lovely china, are two urns. I, Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Look, we will do what is best for Zachary. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. MORRISON: But then things changed. But two months later, that would change, after Shirley appealed, again to be released on bail. I thought if I do that, I go to prison, maybe Kate. was that they'd have to accept her daily phone calls. We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. See rank. I kind of need to move on from that because, like I. said, I'm a Bagby male. This abridged version was prepared personally by Kurt Kuenne in order to comply with CBC Newsworld's time constraints but preserve the film's impact while reaching a wider audience in Canada. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. We dont do anything related to murder anymore, he said. Interviews with Bagbys friends and family take the place of the usual lineup of witnessesas much attention is given to the fact that he always wore shorts as to the number of times he was shotand their pain functions as evidence as the film builds a case against the Canadian bail and extradition protocols. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). The reason we go through the lawyers is so that we. He was the whole world to them. Mr. BAGBY: That's one of the options, and that's the one we hoped for. HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. Andrew, of all people, seemed to have no enemies at all. MORRISON: Was she taunting them, they wondered? We're thrilled with MP Andrews' initiative and efforts, and support him 100% as he moves this bill forward. We urge you to write your MP (if you're Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if you're not) in support of MP Andrews' bill; the next few months are a crucial time. In that time, it also becomes clear that Andrews fate is in danger of also becoming his sons. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Would you be willing to turn the gun into your local police department so they could get it to us to let us look at it? MORRISON: Must have seemed like the enemy was in the camp. MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. After Zacharys death, the Bagbys began a quest to have Canadas bail laws changed. And that's when she said, `He loves you, more than me. He said, `What can happen?'. Is it OK? And I know, you love me, and--yeah. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I know you don't want to, you don't intend to. The pair planned to take care of the minutiae of dealing with a lost loved one, fly back to California and kill themselves. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. Dear Zachary recently won the Sigma Delta Chi Award for Best Documentary of 2008 from the Society of Professional Journalists. Mr. SIMPSON: Andrew, you know you can do a lot better. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! You know when you see pictures of some of your friends and then pictures of their parents as kids and they look identical? granddad? David and Kate Bagby must have been saints to have had to tolerate personal dealings with their only child's murderess,and basically have to groval to her to even see their precious only-ever grandchild.Yet,they did whatever they could for the sake of Zachary.Most people (myself included) would have made away with Shirley Turner the first chance